Friday, September 23, 2016

Comment on pride and prejudice


Pride and prejudice Jane Austin 


I know that this story is one of the best masterpieces from the English literature but
for unknown reasons much of the story was lost in translation . The greek translation is a good rendering from  English as compared with the original (found as epub and downloaded  in my smartphone ) .The book has been bought as a bundle of 4 stories at a pruice of only 6.5 Eu. it is smaller than A5 with dense printing and about 240 pages. (on the smartphone i twas ca 850 pages middle sized letters )
Reading the greek rendering  is quite easy without problems but for unknown  reasons i lost a big part of the story for about the first third.but after it's half everything was OK. But i was quite bored  as no action was inside.

Σύντομες κριτικές ελληνικών bilbiwn


Ο τροχός της μοίρας (καλύτερα πες κατάρας)


Ένα από τα πρώτα (?) βιβλία  της σειράς  του θέματος με έντονα  θεματογραφία. το διάβασα σε δυο μέρες  στις διακοπές  μου. έχει την εμφάνιση  της 'ζωής σε δυο πραξίες /stepmom' που ενώ ξεκινάει με ένα ευχάριστο τόνο  καταλήγει τραγική  αν όχι καταθλιπτική .
Η ιστορία  αναφέρεται σε μια κοπέλα που ζει στην Καβαλα  πιέζεται από του γονείς της να παντρευτεί τον γκομενιάρη γιο της  φίλης τους ενώ μόλοι  έχει τελειώσει το λύκειο.  Στο ταξίδι της για την Ρόδο γνωρίζει τον ερωτα της ζωής της και το κρατα μυστικό.... δεν συνεχίζω  την ιστορία γαΐτη έχει πολλές ανατροπές όπως και το μέρος  του τέλους που συγκλονίζει.
Αν ήμουνα   εγώ  ο συγγραφέας  δεν θα έγγραφα το τελευταίο κεφαλαιο. Θα προτιμούσα  η κοπέλα να έβρισκε την οικογενειακή ευτυχία που σχεδόν ποτε δεν είχε.
Κρίμα που δεν γυρίστηκε σε σειρά.
4.8/5

Έχετε μήνυμα στο  κινητό σας ( μαμανεδακη )

Η μανανεδάκη είναι άπαιχτη.Η ιστορία  της είναι πολύ  αστεία  και γελάς μέχρι λιποθυμίας . Συνεχεια γαμάτο με ατάκες κλεμμένες  από διαφορες  διαφημίσεις και  σειρές . Στην αρχή η ιστορία  θυμίζει λογική μικρού παιδιού παρα τριαντάρας   , αν και μερικές  φορες μου φαίνεται  ότι έχει βεβιασμένα αστεία
3/5

Του  google η μάνα mal... (Μανανεδάκη )

Ένα ακόμη ξεκαρδιστικό ,ο θεός να το κάνει  μυθστόρημα, της Μανανεδάκη αν και ιδιαιτερα πολύ κουραστικό στο  διάβασμα ,Μετά από το αρχικό κάζο στα γέλια αρχίζει να γιαίνετε βαρετό εκτος και αν κάθε μέρα διαβάζεις από ένα κεφαλαιο.Νομίζω  ότι αυτή την φορα η κατερίνα  έβαλε τον αυτόματο  ...πιλότο γράφοντας  ένα... ασυνάρτητο κείμενο με ακατάσχετη   ..εσωτερική φλυαρία.
Ευτυχώς που το δανείστηκα διαφορετικά  θα ....έκλαιγα   τα 13 euro
1.5 /5

Ο χαρτοκόπτης  της ηδονής 

Ένα ακόμη βιβλίο από τις προσφορες  του Θέματος.
Ένα thriller  με πολύ γpηγορο βηματισμό , με σχετικά σύντομη περιγραφή κάθε  ώρας που συνέβαινε ένα γεγονός , Ένα  ιδιαιτερα   μακάβριο παιχνίδι μεταξύ δυο ερωτημένων Είχαν βάλει στοίχημα που στοίχησε τον θάνατο σε περίπου 5 άτομα μέσα από ένα σύνθετο   σκηνικό σε διαφoρeτικα μέρη  στην Ευρώπη  .
Μια καινοτόμα ιστορία ( βηματισμός με βάση την ώρα ένας  λόγος αύξησης  του θρίλερ ) παρόλο που δεν με άρεσε ο τρόπος  γραφής όπως και οι εικόνες που αναδύονταν μέσα από το κείμενο
2/5

Περηφάνια και προκατάληψη Jane austin
Θεωρητικά  ένα από τα αριστουργήματα  της αγγλικής λογοτεχνίας. γpαμμενο από την αξεπέραστη  Jane Austin. . Το βιπεράκι   βρσκόταν  σε ένα πακέτο 4 τομων με κόστος μονο 6.9 Ευ από τις  εκδόσεις Άρλεκιν Η τιμή είναι uyaymasia και όπως με aναφεραν" ξένοι , ακόμη και μεταχειpισμενα δεν βρίσκονται se τέτοια τιμή.
Το βιβλίο  το διάβασα σε περίπου 8 ώρες μέσα σε τρεις μέρες. Αρκετά εύκολο διάβασμα  πολύ καλή απόδοση από τα αγγλικά (όχι πιστη μετάφραση καθώς έκανα σύγκριση με το πρωτότυπο που βρήκα από το internet σε μορφή  epub) αλλα  κάπου  το κείμενο έχανε .  Τώρα  δεν ξέρω αν ήταν από πλευρά μου καθώς στο δωμάτιο γινόταν βαβούρα αλλα για το ένα τρίτο έχασα σχεδόν την ιστορία αν και μετά από το μισό μέχρι στο τέλος  το διάβασμα ήταν  πολύ πιο εύκολο και ευ-μνημονευτώ.  Σε μερικά  σημεια  όμως νομίζω ότι δεν ήταν πολύ ξεκάθαρα πως πχ οι "διαδοσεις" από τον Darcy για  τον επικείμενο γάμο  του με την Liz εκο δεν ήταν ξεκάθαρο ότι και οι δυο είχαν κλείσει .....Αρκετά  βαρετή ιστορία  καθώς η δράση δεν υπάρχει με τους ορους του ας πούμε thriller των σημερινών ταινιών  .
3/5

Thursday, September 22, 2016

Hindugreek music /songs /movies .



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In the photo you ve seen  Mr Nargis ,one of the most important and olderr time popular HIndu actor in Greece.  Her movie Mother India is one of the most known movies with  length of ca 3.5 hours . I have this movie in DVD taken from a newspaper as insert.
This interestin hindi movies started  here in greece after 50s . One of the reasons that they had big sucess is that their characters spoken to the heart  of the greek people of the time. Many greeks became immigrants  to Germany looking for work as they do today and some of them returned back sot start their jobs after  they earned some money. Greece was under a second inner war after the  end of the german dominance and had a 3-5 yeas  delay to 'resurect' herself from both war's disaster.
Thus greek of the era were very poor and  loked for simple stories to watch. Specialized halls , second class at most,    played  Indian movies and were aways full. It is something that my father told me years ago.
Medium or higher casts  prefered  to listen /watch other kinds. Medium prefered  rock and roll (60s )and clasic (higher cast )

Some facts
1. Nearly all Hindu  movies  reaching  the local cinemas were  dramatic    Many of these movies  were here edited  for  a happy end . (This is what the moguls of the  GReek cinema wanted  greeks   to see. Many of these movies had dramatic or depressing end)
2 . Most of these are very complex stories (as mine!) with unpredictabel end in contrast to most greek or western movies of the time
3. All these movies are mixed with nice music .Dalianides , a famous movie maker 10 years after  used the same idea  to make his productions (musical movies)
4.Greek population of the time preferd to watch Indian movies because excpet they were very lenghy (3 or rmore hours)  ofered a  rather 'shallow' (ie stories  you dont need  to think much) and easy to understand story that comes close to their  way if thining. However   todays standars are completely diferent and someone can laugh watching  Mother India. it was happened when it was  played on 2008 in a lcoal cinema
5. The today's (90s ) hindi movies approached  Holywood standards with violence sex etc somthing  that oleder times  did not occur.
This interest of Greek arisen also the interest  of musicians to play or even edit many songs the greek  way. There are several songs  played here intact (as the original )  though most of the original indians  has been heavily changed to more greek standards  tough they have some indian colour . This book  lists  about 150 songs with their greek names - only 10 are the exact original
 Xanthopoulos is the best example  ( he is known as 'folks child; one  of the most imporrtant actors of that time projected te after war situation in his movies. Most of his songs are of indian origin  though heavily 'versioned'  ) Also Kazanjidis who sing more than 40.
On late 70s when Voula Palla a singer of traditional songs  tried to revmap indian singing.Voula was not well known singer but the  Greek audience knows her  as the only greek singer with the hindi voice!.
Just google for these names and songs .Good luck !!

The Indian era in greek cinema and music was on 50-65 and again on end of 80s fr a very short time  only for music adn on mid 2000 with new wave of Bollywood (movies of mid 90)

Some very known  greek songs of the time  were Madhubala (after a very nice  actress but greek song  ) Jingoala (same ), Oso glyka ehune ta hili su  (your lips are as sweet/surga dunia in Insia/inchi unchi dunia ke vivare indian song  )  Oso axizis esy (you  are so valued /dunyavalon se dur indian )
I think that this litle  info can be helpful

PS 2: Not only greeks  imported  hindu  movies or  replayed songs. The same happened on most 3rd countries among them Msia Insia Tailand but also   NIgeria

PS 3 Indians have 4 greek songs!  Theere are eg the  'Pedia tou pirea' & 'never on sunday mixed' into one hindi song . I have heard another called in both countries as 'bumpa bumpa pararam'/'mpros gkremos kai pisw rema' (renders to : in betwen  Scylla and Harybdis ) that is clearly greek music

My personal interest and view as a fan of indian movie and music

Movies:
I dont like the older movies (60s)  but prefer to watch movies from 70s and then that suits better  to  interest . Amibtabh Bachchan is the most known actor of the 80+ . I have seen and enjoyed  some movies of he post 70 period  . THey are quite entertaining as like Pukaar and Silsila (with the best indian songs of the time )  .
Good source of watching indian movies was  satelite TV and radio since the start of TVRO  in Europe is ca  86 . I dont remember names of TV channels but nearly all  scrambled in short time after thy started sat transmission.I didnt keep any of htem into casetes  for that time.
A now extinct newspaper called Eleyfthrotypia after 2000  ofered two collections  of bollywood mvies of the 90 era as free inserts. It was 4 movies per collection. I imedately bought them and watched . I also  watched HIndi movies via secvreal satelitte

My movie and actor   pfrefrences :
Ash Rai,  Sharukh Khan,  Jaya bachan , Prety Zinta, Kajol are part of the big list of  good Hindi actors of 90s i know. Ash known to me was also known from a role in Pink Panther
Some of the best  movies of th 90s  are Devdas with Ash   ( Bangla version  of Romeo and Juliet/ Ash's  version is poss the 3rd) Hum tum  (me &you ), kal ho naa ho कल हो ना हो ( tomorow will never be from the greek title ) , dhoom (havoc /races with bikes ) Kabhi khusi kabhie gham (pleasures and sorows ) adn surely the most imporant and famous for my wife but not me   Kuch kuch hota he कुछ कुछ होता ह  (somethig happens - in my heart ) that  i even  heard its OST  in NIgeria ! (heard versions the song from Afganistan  and also two from Indonesia and Msia )
My most important  movie is however : Pinjaar पिंजर  (cage ) one of the  most dramatic stories ever. I have it original in English.

Songs:
It isnearly he same interest as with movies.I was first conected with hindi songs from the greek editions of our well known singers but my interst was quite low as i prefered to listen  to the so called here soft music and later with rocks  . I continued listening to hindi music from  shotwaves and later i received severral tapes after my relatives gone in business trip on 82 on UAE. They bought sevral  videotapes and audio casetes with music of 70s which i diidnt ike so much. The bst songs have bee foundin ther movie silsila  as noticed above.
I  irregularly continued to listen  to HIndi songs in general  from  shortwaves (ie India and Pakistan ) One of the songs i liked much was a song  form aaina series. (rothe  ho tum/nayara nur ) and wws one of the very few  recorded on more n 10 years and was just by chance while tuning to R Pakistan .
Shortwaves were  my preference to  listen to indian music but not recording regardless if signals are very good here . it was more systematic with malay after 90
There is no listing of top songs other than the above even into the streaming era i only listen sometimes to some interetsting streams .

And this ends my personal interest in Indian music and movies

Monday, September 19, 2016

Survey : are these dips available in your country ??


Just looking  for sandwitch dips in your country.   In Greece we call them  as salads but locally are called    "ointments" .Simply because they 'oint' the bread.
Which of the following  'salads' /dips  you know to circulate in supermarkets in your country ?Pleae look the artile in full before you  reply to me.

#Paprika , Potato,  Russian  , Farmer ,
# Jajiki /Hungaraise/ Budhapest  ,
# Aubergine  /Tarama (cod roe) /Processsed  cheese

Explanations  of these  names in case these processed salads  dont exist in your country,  by  naming category:

These dips below are mostly greek.
-Paprika is a two faced story. In Thesaloniki  itis made with tomato paste mixed with mustard oil vinegar cheese oregano  Other places in Grece use only red peppers processed  (in the  mixer) with spices
-Jajiki  (corectly spelled  tzatziki  is a  salad made  with yohgurt (preferably strained ),  lined  cucumber , oil, vinegar, minced garlic and anise. This is  purely greek salad an can easily be made at home Tarator is called  in slavic countries offered  as  soup as far as  i know.Jajiki
-Aubergine salad  is made with grilled aubergines ,processed  with garlic, oil and vinegar . Ther are two  at last versions one of them  using also mayo. Greek only  salad I think.

 These  are not directed  for sandwitch but are usd for other purposes
-Processed cheese'paste  is  actually  white cheese minced in the mixer with some hot green papper and oil
-Skordalia (garlic dip) is a dip acompanied especially  for the so called in UK  'fish and chips" This dip is made wih garlic and mashed potato or  dried old bread washed into water.
-Tarama is cod roe eggs mixed in a  food procesor with old (dry ) bread washed (into water) ,or mashed potatoes instead)  oil and salt . Cod roe eggs paste  can be either  red or white

These dips/spreads  are of unknown origin but use 'foreign' names:
-Russian  salad is made by boiled  cubed   carot potato peas  and mixed with mayo. Unsure if this is just greek name
-Farmer salad  is made with  by raw carrots celery apple and others  cut into thin lines and added with mustard and mayo. Alternatively   strained  yoghurt  may be added instead of mayo  in  salads
Some individuals  replace  mayo with  processed watered flower  for fasting periods.

These salads/dips  are posibly   German origin
-Buddhapest and Hungaraise are made with some of the above ingredients and also cubed ham
-Potato salad is only boiled potatoes mixed with mayo and thin sllices of green peppers.

Expecting your response.

Saturday, September 3, 2016

My reply on the model story


It is  very sad that after  numerous  postings in twitter and a so called creative writers group around 150  have been passed here  and 60  in the creative group without posting their opinions  in the previous posting. Anyway I m here back to post  a final idea hoping that it can help others to brainstorm for something  better. 

Below you can read   the full passage of my idea for the model story as devised thestr of the month (see the dte it posted though i revised it several times) together with the help of some neighbours.  It  will be kept in my story  as far as  other smarter or better idea could be found.

I think that my idea  it is still not so smart but is possibly cliched  but for the moment suits best to Mary, the original story  character. The story  mentioned in the previous post is just a simplification   . Your opinions however are very highly appreciated and  very important

Our  idea is a play  with  the word 'queen' and  subtext or by dropping hints (please advise me which word suits better). I forcibly simplify my English level of writing to basic . The text below is an adaptation of the original and more complex ‘sister story/Ariana ’  passage which is  also included as  indented  paragraph  . All references on the end  are my 'behind-the-text' analysis (the why) .
....... She immediately took the microphone from Elina's hands (the model agency headperson) with zest  and good mood made her addressing towards  the audience All people were very anxious to hear her speech. 

-I warmly thank the invitation and support of my very close friend Elina  to attend this excellent show as the queen of the show. It is the first and last  time  to help her as I am retired model(1).
-It is very sad that Vanessa, agency's top model, couldn't come  here tonight  as her feet was broken. I hope that she will soon return back  healthy and lively. God Bless her and give her good health.
-I warmly thank anyone visiting the show  and your admire to me (2).You are all wonderful ! 
-I also warmly   thank the support of my lovely family who call me the ‘queen of  the house’. Guys you are my life! (3)


         - I would also very much like to thank our good friends who call me the Queen of the Taste .(4a) I am Mary Jikati sister of the well known model etc Lucy Mega(4b) who is also left to me. Now, outside the hall please help yourselves to my latest creative recipes with some very tasty food as made by the Queen of the Restaurants specifically for this evening (4c). performance! I am their provider for the importation of these exotic ingredients! 4d)
- Thank you so much for coming and supporting me tonight, I am overjoyed and thrilled that I have so many wonderful friends! God Bless you all and good night! . (5)


After her speech she looks at her husband, who just approached her with their 7 years old daughter and 4 and 3 y.o nieces.She could not expect them. It was a big surprise to her. She walks towards them and kisses him first and then the children. The headlight follows her (6)
All attendees applauded her for her very smart speech and......(omitted .just to be in the subject )
     Elina is enthused with Marys' speech , reaches her  and tells her :   
   -Mary  you are unbeliavable!  Your speech was  totaly unpredictable and none was bothered/disappointed. You know that i am a very cunnin'  person. If i was you I could talk something more cliched  . But you were even smarter than i thought . 
   -No, we play! (verbatim  of a  greek exclamation . It can be rendered and analyzed   into English this way : "Dont you think  ? Sometimes the person you know can  do something very awesome and totaly unpredictable  or even  suprass his abilities or your  expectations. I feel very happy, if not proud of it " ) 

==This  closes  the scene ===

Notices:
(1)Idea from another friend She told me that none will ever again look  her as a model in any next show.
(2)She just thanks and respects anyone admiring her.
(3)This proves she is a good  housewife  and loves her family. I think that this will even more  prevent anyone to annoy her
(4) The remain addressing goes beyond the  scope of this posting and is my character's speech from the book. It continues to play with the  word queen for two more times  showing three different surprises to all attendees. This is mostly what happens in the Greek reality:
(4a) surely a very good cooker(4b) Lucy Mega still unmarried  at 30 uses parents name.Etc means she is  more than being a model and is totaly out of  question in this mini part-of-story .(4c) She has very good  knowledge in cooking and gave her 'know-how' in a high class gourmet restaurant.(4d) exotic ingredients from SEAsia and LA This is what I re-call as MediterAsean (after the  'Mediaterrasian'  blog )BTW most the readers of the book already know that 5 years ago that she and her sisters including Lucy  -series' main character-  helped the restaurant 're-bear' from its ashes. (it was  very close to suspend operations due to very low demand and bad ingredient mix. The sisters made a total makeover including room redesign (layout),  recipes, offered  good advertising for free, and took over the cooking for sometime before the restaurant's  chef returned in  his position  )  . It is a Greek  custom to perform an after show lunch or dinner most times with buffet. 
(5) I preferred to use her to end the show and give a religious tone . This could be another indirect message.The original character, Mary, is a very pious person. (ie strong religious follower ).
(6) None could even bother annoying a woman in a so bonded family (children also play their role ).

I do not know if you agree with this idea  but  I expect  your comments .Feel free to agree or disagree but post here as anonymous ! Thanks .

Friday, September 2, 2016

asking for your help: Model story

The text below fist appeared in one creative writing related  Facebook group but i have not received so many replies except a handful For this reason i post it here expecting  replies from the public . 

In contrast  to what previously noticed I m now open to brainstorming from all folks in the web with the hope that many more people will help me. I hope  that the text is  as comprehensible as possible although it can still sound as broken English to some.Please notice that English is not my mother tongue!

Imagine that you are a very beautiful and lively woman ,retired  model  (but occasional).  Your body is still perfect. You don't work as your husband runs a very profitable business. You are 34 years old and care your young child and two young nieces and you love passionately your family.

Your close friend (a woman) runs a model agency and in a total hurry asks your help. Her best  model  has fallen from a ladder and  broken  her feet  .Your friend   has no  time to look for another model   as same night you  must  walk  on the stage in  a fashion show wearing  a queen dress. It is the best creature of  a famous fashion designer.  Your friend is very lucky as   the dress fits perfectly in your body.

 
....later...


You are now on the stage, dressed with  the queen dress and you 've just been called as the  queen of the show. Everybody cheers you for your high success , even your enemies . Your friend just told you that many people admire you mostly men She  holds  a microphone in her hands and is nearly ready to say goodbye  to anyone  attending the show   . As a new Penelope you have to think a smart idea to getting rid of all these  suitors (or say admirers)  without  insulting anyone.
... A few  seconds later ..
Now  you are ready to amaze every one with your subtle wording.What you could address via the microphone?


Please notice that all ideas,  no mater if they are direct indirect or creative, are appreciated though some full passage of your addressing will be also quite helpful. Thank you in advance
If you cannot  post your idea here you may send an email  to me :  zliangas /at/ yahoo /dot/  com
 
It is very possible  that i will use your  passage in my story's addressing.
FYI here i post all  responses received so far that might help you  find another and more subtle idea.Although none of them suit my character! 



From  admin's FC wall : (paragraphs reformatted )
Heya bud. Saw your post and thought I might lend a hand if you haven't already got one. You could have the character pitch the moment back to the model who was originally meant to wear it and say something along the lines of over crediting her might hurt the other model in some way.
Or you could have her say something very feminist. It might chase away some of those 'fedora headed suitors' *.
Or break away from the usual and have her say something completely whacky and zany....like "Damn those bourgeoisie!"
A communist model is the last thing anybody expects. But that might hurt the plotting of your story as I picture whatever she says will be in the news to some extent and affect how the more gossip prone public views her. Best of luck.

* i m not so sure what does he mean with this "fedora..." except that fedora is a hat  This man lives in USA

From personal message
Wow. I don't know. I'm not sure why she has to dispel the suitors. Penelope, yes. But your character? No. You need some kind of twist to force that situation, like a modeling contract or something.
Maybe if she took the microphone and said horrible, insulting things to ward them off. Perhaps racist things? Or finally, she thanks her plastic surgeon for his excellent work?
From personal message 
....has said that this fill in performer could say thank you to the audience for enjoying her performance so much and that she is very grateful for being given the opportunity to fill in the act for the broken performer or actress and then go on to say that the broken actress gets well soon so she can return to her regular performances
On the other hand, if this fill in performer is a real bitch and grabs every opportunity to steel an act to fill in for as long as possible and maybe even to oust the original actress then she may rebel in the limelight and say she would be happy to return to perform once again
From PM
I believe she can simply say thank you and give a small speech on how lucky she is to perform on stage. Then to ward off her admiriers I believe she can slightly show off her wedding ring so people can see and get the message she is married and belongs to another man
From PM
OK. Imagine that the model has the microphone in her hand, aware that many men in the audience admire her and are considering approaching her with their proposals. She is already married and very happy with her family. She takes the microphone, and with a smile she thanks the entire audience for their applause. "You have no idea how nervous I was," she says. "It has been many years since I retired from modelling to become a wife and mother, and I was not sure I was still able to do this. My husband is very supportive, and always makes me happy, and I offer my huge thanks to him for being so great" She looks to her friend, offering the microphone back, and takes a bow to the audience, noticing the disappointed looks on many faces.







Wednesday, January 27, 2016

Looking the difference between kapsoura and jiwang !


Looking   the difference between kapsoura and jiwang !

Let me  once again stress in the  term kapsoura. Just a small scenario.

Just think of a   boy. He   loves a girl  . This girl does not show a love to him  ,or even more she rejects any relation to him. this is what we  call here in greece that he is "eaten the  khylopita [a kind of noodle form rice] " meaning as blowed out   or ate the mitten  as i found  in the greek eglish lang fora yesterday
This boy   is very very fond of this girl . His heart  is blowing from flames  figuratively [this is how  kapsoura  means]
His love is too strong that canot focus in his work , with his friends etc and gets  alone in his life  for a short time HIs firnds ridicule him  for his  so jerky behavior
He tries to forget her. he cant find any other way than   smoking oe even  drinking .
Untill   sometime  , possibly less than 3 weeks?  he finds the courage to set up again his life  , by fiding a new love or return back to  his workjob .

This is the whole process  for saying someone  has kapsoura.
For you have something related   to say about it in Australia except the  term fondly in love  ?
as far as  i seen in the web , the  term jiwang  goes quite close  to the above  ,wuth less strength but sadness  from boy's part.