When shazam makes wonders !
It is now about one week since i started a research testing my older songs recorded iin 89 in shazam The results are impressive!You will find a detailed technical information on the text belo in the numbered part
The idea behind this research was first to identify the songs of my collection prior to start a DX-music related article. i tought it could be more wqise to fist know the all posisble titles of mu older collectios and then start writing the article.
The sense of idetitification from Shazam was also very impressive . Knowing the real titles of songs you could sing but never knew is very magnificent and more epscially for me in a first time subject as Chinese and Thai which i never was envolved.
The idea of using Shazam was a proposal by a fellow DX consultant last yea the time afcter a conflict with a radio fellow on two songs with nearly the same name but diferent category. It has been also used not only for identifying songs from older recordings but also doing the same for shortwaves with success of 90%. It can also operate with hash radio conditions an even telephonic quality sounds.
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My results are as follows :
10 IDed Hindi songs out of 11 (91% success the remain also well known among olders)
43 Ided Chinese songs out of 57 (75%)
29 IDed Thai songs ouot of 64 (44%)
14 IDed Malay out of 36 (39%)
In HK: 5 IDed and 2 not
2 false results !
(IDed = identified )
Excluded of the list are 7 songs: 3 Chinese , two Thai and 3 malay These included in albums bought same time. The malay albums were bought later but before 2000.
My analysis and comments of the above listing:
Technical approach :
0-1 All songs required around 10 secs for Identification. 5 secs are more than enough in Greek and western songs .
0-2 The total mp3 size with 128 kbs is 410 MB .These seven tapes have been heard 'unlimited' times untill i have bougt the fist tapes via the net after 1995 or started listening to the shortwaves on 91.Audio was nearly telephonic from shortwaves . The number of 410 MB yelds arond 440 mins of recordings.
The number of 170 songs can be quite high to you. That's because many of them start or stop abruptly due to the end of tape or due to abrupt start of recording. Around 25 songs. Remain songs are around 3 mins each and only a few above 4.
0-3 the sound quality was enhanced by the equipment. Original recording was made with an Aiwa walkman bought in S'pore the first day of visiting SEA that deteriorated the sound fidelity by a small level. Ripping was made on 2001 with a HiFi stereo cassette recorder of 80s that increased trebles switching off DoblyNR connected into an XP based computer .
0-4 Tecsun Q3 is a mini cigarete box sized mp3 recorder and player with excellent quality sound in both speaker and headphones and adds some treble, enough to be heard as linear in studio headphoas as AKG66 . The resulted sounds are near Cd quality.In contrast Thai stations used loudness and spatiality offering more trebles This happens in most stations today in Salonica as compared to the linear ERA . R Singapore is the ERA of our case. i have heard that R Singapore had the best fidelty sound inte world older times.
----overwiew an comments by language service
1.Malay songs are the easiest part of the research as I am mostly familiar with them and the language is the simplest among the remain due to the use of Latin alphabet. Shazam’s database is quite mising as I know six of the unIded songs. They seem known to people of the same age of me (56 as for 21.8.18) who are possibly not involved in the net or or for fans of oldies or are local songs. Several songs are Indonesian some are purely from S'pore but cant count which
Two from the identified songs were unknown to me the one is a copy from american rock of 70s called di air jernih -Haron Anita ,first heard in an alternative radio station of Salonika . I was very impressed that Shazam immediately found the malay and NOT the American! It has been IDed in less than 5 seconds.
Here is my emotional rating of the malay songs :
The idea behind this research was first to identify the songs of my collection prior to start a DX-music related article. i tought it could be more wqise to fist know the all posisble titles of mu older collectios and then start writing the article.
The sense of idetitification from Shazam was also very impressive . Knowing the real titles of songs you could sing but never knew is very magnificent and more epscially for me in a first time subject as Chinese and Thai which i never was envolved.
The idea of using Shazam was a proposal by a fellow DX consultant last yea the time afcter a conflict with a radio fellow on two songs with nearly the same name but diferent category. It has been also used not only for identifying songs from older recordings but also doing the same for shortwaves with success of 90%. It can also operate with hash radio conditions an even telephonic quality sounds.
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10 IDed Hindi songs out of 11 (91% success the remain also well known among olders)
43 Ided Chinese songs out of 57 (75%)
29 IDed Thai songs ouot of 64 (44%)
14 IDed Malay out of 36 (39%)
In HK: 5 IDed and 2 not
2 false results !
(IDed = identified )
Excluded of the list are 7 songs: 3 Chinese , two Thai and 3 malay These included in albums bought same time. The malay albums were bought later but before 2000.
My analysis and comments of the above listing:
Technical approach :
0-1 All songs required around 10 secs for Identification. 5 secs are more than enough in Greek and western songs .
0-2 The total mp3 size with 128 kbs is 410 MB .These seven tapes have been heard 'unlimited' times untill i have bougt the fist tapes via the net after 1995 or started listening to the shortwaves on 91.Audio was nearly telephonic from shortwaves . The number of 410 MB yelds arond 440 mins of recordings.
The number of 170 songs can be quite high to you. That's because many of them start or stop abruptly due to the end of tape or due to abrupt start of recording. Around 25 songs. Remain songs are around 3 mins each and only a few above 4.
0-3 the sound quality was enhanced by the equipment. Original recording was made with an Aiwa walkman bought in S'pore the first day of visiting SEA that deteriorated the sound fidelity by a small level. Ripping was made on 2001 with a HiFi stereo cassette recorder of 80s that increased trebles switching off DoblyNR connected into an XP based computer .
0-4 Tecsun Q3 is a mini cigarete box sized mp3 recorder and player with excellent quality sound in both speaker and headphones and adds some treble, enough to be heard as linear in studio headphoas as AKG66 . The resulted sounds are near Cd quality.In contrast Thai stations used loudness and spatiality offering more trebles This happens in most stations today in Salonica as compared to the linear ERA . R Singapore is the ERA of our case. i have heard that R Singapore had the best fidelty sound inte world older times.
----overwiew an comments by language service
1.Malay songs are the easiest part of the research as I am mostly familiar with them and the language is the simplest among the remain due to the use of Latin alphabet. Shazam’s database is quite mising as I know six of the unIded songs. They seem known to people of the same age of me (56 as for 21.8.18) who are possibly not involved in the net or or for fans of oldies or are local songs. Several songs are Indonesian some are purely from S'pore but cant count which
Two from the identified songs were unknown to me the one is a copy from american rock of 70s called di air jernih -Haron Anita ,first heard in an alternative radio station of Salonika . I was very impressed that Shazam immediately found the malay and NOT the American! It has been IDed in less than 5 seconds.
Here is my emotional rating of the malay songs :
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These are my strange ratings :
1 totally useless 2 bad 3 indiferent 4 good 5 very good 6 exceptional or strong emotional raisers (therefore passing the normal limit)
This can raise a question on how with just a few songs I was locked into this music for so many years and still am .This is something that I can t reply possibl due to the exceptional mood raising songs and posibly that emotions can vary by time and some songs rated as 3 can enter the listing with ratings of 4 or more .My favorite malay songs today are above 1000 (rated above 3 ).
2.Hindis of pre90s are all except one song available in Shazam , including 5 tamil and one of Greek origin - Bumpa bumpa pararam from Ahsa Bhosle .
I am very curious why the Tamil song "raja kaiyya vaccha" - the king grabed that- well known by any HIndi i met the previous years was unlisted in Shazam database
Greece was 'invaded ' by indian movies during 50-70 that influenced greek music with more then 250 song copied or adapted. People of all ages above 20 still sing these evergreen songs. However my story on how i was involved will be in a separate Dx-related artcile later for an article on AIR all india radio . But i can only refer here the songs that can efect my mood tough already were writen in previous post:
-rothe ho tum from nayarra noor heard from shortwaves ,
-OST’s from Julie and Silsila from satelite TV. All are availabe in youtube Just search them
3. Four or five of the Chinese songs are regularly heard in the station of reference [for the pending article ] that includes one of the excluded songs called zai hui shou 再回首/ looking back.The singer Jien Yu Heng 姜育恆- seems still well known 30 years after.
Shazam identified the songs in three formats:
The singers with most songs (2) are the male Wan Chiech and the female Tracy Huang who compares with the world's famous female singer Teresa Teng. I prefer Tracy's voice.If you dont know them please look on YouTube
Many female youngsters from this database have really impressive metallic’ as we call voice Severeal from the identified are: Matilda Tao, Diana Yang an Leslie Chang Older males (of 70s?) Wan Chieh and Angus Tong have also very nice songs .All these songs and singers are rated 5+ in both music and preformance.
Two marvelous but pompous songs (rated as 6 )were not identified though their titlies are easy to suppose from the repeated phrases
One of the most rare cases one music piece has been identified, by Ricky Kina Itis the only identified out of 6 music peices heard .
The flower 一朵小花/ yiduoxiao hua is a traditional song with many vesions . The best version is by莊學志 Zhuang XueXithe singer I heard .Rated 4+
Thus i can account more than 3/4 of the songs to be above 4 Their beauty though quite westernized than i can expect is unbeatable. even from the 'emotional' malay
As in result Chinese music exempting rock (other question )is the most beautiful pop music in the world Nice very easy to listen that can make you get easily into nirvana and many of them can touch you.Just try listening into the thousand channels in youtube to get what i mean.
4. Thai songs and music were the most funny with rather difficult script that are not easy to read. i still remember the name of MIkhor read as it as Natir! There were around 2 false results that were corrected after playing the songs towards midpoint witout results. Most of the nonIDed songs are lokthung ,morlam or local types.
Titles are showed in either thai , romanized or translated into english as with the Chinese case above.
The singer with the most listed songs is Mai Charoenpura a ballad rocker with 3 songs and a replay ( ไม่อยากให้เธอรู้ /maiyahthui turrao which I called it so far as hitaraiyu) Some basic net search in Youtube and her wiki yielded that 1989 was her e debut in music.I was lucky enough to listen to a very famous singer of today .
Next of it is the female group “Andre and Serenity” with 2 songs (prison of love /beter to kill me. these titles remind the jiwang- weepy- style of Malaysia ).
Nantida นันทิดา แก้วบัวสาย is mentioned with two songs from the unIDed listing.One of these two heard in Youtube by chance and is called “ บอกหน่อยได้มั้ย/ can you tell me” Her voice is very special and memorable
Rock group Micro - ไมโคร from the excluded listing is also with two songs one of them is called 'orange drop ส้มหล่น' . These songs from the last two names are are included in the tapes bought before leaving the place two days later.
One of the local songs and unIded which I call Anda-Andaman - the only heard during the music play - is only dance music with slightly Muslim colour. Phuket is nearby the malay borders asa far as i remember.
Traditional or semi traditional songs were also played with western instruments and are mostly with funny music style . Most of them are highly enjoyable and danceful. fom the remain songs thewre are a few only sense raising as with Nantida and Andre that i call highly erotic .
In other wods i felt much sympathy with most songs (more than 40 and andaman ) that exclude some the very funny lopthung morlam or traditional styles.
5 the least interesting thing was the 7 songs recorded in Hong Kong . pop and rock of the time without the beauty of the other Chinese ecxept the song xi guanye suan yongyou by yolinda yon as recognized by Shazam .All others were without emotions.
Based on the above (Chiense and Thai songs )i can once again cosider myself on how malay with the fewer songs grabed me more than the mesmerizing Chinese and the 'funny' nut nice Thai and still can't get a logical answer.
Tell me crazy but if I could return back to the trip's time with the today's technology I would like to put aside on the hotel two or three ICR110 recorders/players recording full days of programming from Radio Dua (malay) and 101 (Chinese) from Singapore and various local stations from Phuket using 32GB memories so i can enjoy my vacation time without monitoring the recrodings . Even beter could be to stay for least one week in each place. You can account around 530 hours of recordings (22 full days! ) per memory!
This player is the big brother of Q3 with very good FM/MW radio and detachable FM antenna,great sound and sentitivity. I checked it for review and then passed to the buyer last year . I did the same idea of paralell recording when i was in S'pore on 2000 using two walkmans and recording around 120 malay songs in 3 days !It was my 89's Aiwa model and the new modelbought the same day when we landed in Spore .Next year the old Aiwa' recorder was totaly out of order.
Written in PC with a tablet !
1 totally useless 2 bad 3 indiferent 4 good 5 very good 6 exceptional or strong emotional raisers (therefore passing the normal limit)
This can raise a question on how with just a few songs I was locked into this music for so many years and still am .This is something that I can t reply possibl due to the exceptional mood raising songs and posibly that emotions can vary by time and some songs rated as 3 can enter the listing with ratings of 4 or more .My favorite malay songs today are above 1000 (rated above 3 ).
2.Hindis of pre90s are all except one song available in Shazam , including 5 tamil and one of Greek origin - Bumpa bumpa pararam from Ahsa Bhosle .
I am very curious why the Tamil song "raja kaiyya vaccha" - the king grabed that- well known by any HIndi i met the previous years was unlisted in Shazam database
Greece was 'invaded ' by indian movies during 50-70 that influenced greek music with more then 250 song copied or adapted. People of all ages above 20 still sing these evergreen songs. However my story on how i was involved will be in a separate Dx-related artcile later for an article on AIR all india radio . But i can only refer here the songs that can efect my mood tough already were writen in previous post:
-rothe ho tum from nayarra noor heard from shortwaves ,
-OST’s from Julie and Silsila from satelite TV. All are availabe in youtube Just search them
3. Four or five of the Chinese songs are regularly heard in the station of reference [for the pending article ] that includes one of the excluded songs called zai hui shou 再回首/ looking back.The singer Jien Yu Heng 姜育恆- seems still well known 30 years after.
Shazam identified the songs in three formats:
- Purely Chinese titles and artists ,
- Latin characters only.
- English titles for presumably older singers Traditional songs were not IDed except 'the flower' noticed below
The singers with most songs (2) are the male Wan Chiech and the female Tracy Huang who compares with the world's famous female singer Teresa Teng. I prefer Tracy's voice.If you dont know them please look on YouTube
Many female youngsters from this database have really impressive metallic’ as we call voice Severeal from the identified are: Matilda Tao, Diana Yang an Leslie Chang Older males (of 70s?) Wan Chieh and Angus Tong have also very nice songs .All these songs and singers are rated 5+ in both music and preformance.
Two marvelous but pompous songs (rated as 6 )were not identified though their titlies are easy to suppose from the repeated phrases
One of the most rare cases one music piece has been identified, by Ricky Kina Itis the only identified out of 6 music peices heard .
The flower 一朵小花/ yiduoxiao hua is a traditional song with many vesions . The best version is by莊學志 Zhuang XueXithe singer I heard .Rated 4+
Thus i can account more than 3/4 of the songs to be above 4 Their beauty though quite westernized than i can expect is unbeatable. even from the 'emotional' malay
As in result Chinese music exempting rock (other question )is the most beautiful pop music in the world Nice very easy to listen that can make you get easily into nirvana and many of them can touch you.Just try listening into the thousand channels in youtube to get what i mean.
4. Thai songs and music were the most funny with rather difficult script that are not easy to read. i still remember the name of MIkhor read as it as Natir! There were around 2 false results that were corrected after playing the songs towards midpoint witout results. Most of the nonIDed songs are lokthung ,morlam or local types.
Titles are showed in either thai , romanized or translated into english as with the Chinese case above.
The singer with the most listed songs is Mai Charoenpura a ballad rocker with 3 songs and a replay ( ไม่อยากให้เธอรู้ /maiyahthui turrao which I called it so far as hitaraiyu) Some basic net search in Youtube and her wiki yielded that 1989 was her e debut in music.I was lucky enough to listen to a very famous singer of today .
Next of it is the female group “Andre and Serenity” with 2 songs (prison of love /beter to kill me. these titles remind the jiwang- weepy- style of Malaysia ).
Nantida นันทิดา แก้วบัวสาย is mentioned with two songs from the unIDed listing.One of these two heard in Youtube by chance and is called “ บอกหน่อยได้มั้ย/ can you tell me” Her voice is very special and memorable
Rock group Micro - ไมโคร from the excluded listing is also with two songs one of them is called 'orange drop ส้มหล่น' . These songs from the last two names are are included in the tapes bought before leaving the place two days later.
One of the local songs and unIded which I call Anda-Andaman - the only heard during the music play - is only dance music with slightly Muslim colour. Phuket is nearby the malay borders asa far as i remember.
Traditional or semi traditional songs were also played with western instruments and are mostly with funny music style . Most of them are highly enjoyable and danceful. fom the remain songs thewre are a few only sense raising as with Nantida and Andre that i call highly erotic .
In other wods i felt much sympathy with most songs (more than 40 and andaman ) that exclude some the very funny lopthung morlam or traditional styles.
5 the least interesting thing was the 7 songs recorded in Hong Kong . pop and rock of the time without the beauty of the other Chinese ecxept the song xi guanye suan yongyou by yolinda yon as recognized by Shazam .All others were without emotions.
Based on the above (Chiense and Thai songs )i can once again cosider myself on how malay with the fewer songs grabed me more than the mesmerizing Chinese and the 'funny' nut nice Thai and still can't get a logical answer.
Tell me crazy but if I could return back to the trip's time with the today's technology I would like to put aside on the hotel two or three ICR110 recorders/players recording full days of programming from Radio Dua (malay) and 101 (Chinese) from Singapore and various local stations from Phuket using 32GB memories so i can enjoy my vacation time without monitoring the recrodings . Even beter could be to stay for least one week in each place. You can account around 530 hours of recordings (22 full days! ) per memory!
This player is the big brother of Q3 with very good FM/MW radio and detachable FM antenna,great sound and sentitivity. I checked it for review and then passed to the buyer last year . I did the same idea of paralell recording when i was in S'pore on 2000 using two walkmans and recording around 120 malay songs in 3 days !It was my 89's Aiwa model and the new modelbought the same day when we landed in Spore .Next year the old Aiwa' recorder was totaly out of order.
Written in PC with a tablet !
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